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	<title>Comments on: converted sceptic or unrepentant liar?</title>
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		<title>By: Larry Willmore</title>
		<link>http://larrywillmore.net/blog/2012/08/01/converted-sceptic-or-unrepentant-liar/comment-page-1/#comment-63926</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Willmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 21:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>klem: Prof Muller leads the Berkeley Earth Land Temperature Project, a team of 10 scientists that includes Saul Perlmutter, who won the 2011 Nobel Prize in Physics. If you want to know what all the fuss is about, I suggest you read their 30-page report. They submitted it for publication in the Journal of Geophysical Research, a weekly newspaper of the American Geophysical Union, with the title &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://berkeleyearth.org/pdf/results-paper-july-8.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A New Estimate of the Average Earth Surface Land Temperature Spanning 1753 to 2011&lt;/a&gt;&quot;, and posted a draft online. 

Especially revealing is the figure on p. 7,  &quot;Land temperature with 10-year running averages&quot;, which I &lt;a href=&quot;http://larrywillmore.net/blog/2012/07/31/conversion-of-a-global-warming-sceptic/ &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;posted on my blog&lt;/a&gt;. There are other illustrative charts, and I find the text of the report very readable, even though I have no training in physics.

Why scientific studies like this attract &lt;em&gt;ad hominem&lt;/em&gt; attacks is a good question, one to which I have no answer. Possibly it is related in some way to politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>klem: Prof Muller leads the Berkeley Earth Land Temperature Project, a team of 10 scientists that includes Saul Perlmutter, who won the 2011 Nobel Prize in Physics. If you want to know what all the fuss is about, I suggest you read their 30-page report. They submitted it for publication in the Journal of Geophysical Research, a weekly newspaper of the American Geophysical Union, with the title &#8220;<a href="http://berkeleyearth.org/pdf/results-paper-july-8.pdf" rel="nofollow">A New Estimate of the Average Earth Surface Land Temperature Spanning 1753 to 2011</a>&#8220;, and posted a draft online. </p>
<p>Especially revealing is the figure on p. 7,  &#8220;Land temperature with 10-year running averages&#8221;, which I <a href="http://larrywillmore.net/blog/2012/07/31/conversion-of-a-global-warming-sceptic/ " rel="nofollow">posted on my blog</a>. There are other illustrative charts, and I find the text of the report very readable, even though I have no training in physics.</p>
<p>Why scientific studies like this attract <em>ad hominem</em> attacks is a good question, one to which I have no answer. Possibly it is related in some way to politics.</p>
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		<title>By: klem</title>
		<link>http://larrywillmore.net/blog/2012/08/01/converted-sceptic-or-unrepentant-liar/comment-page-1/#comment-63916</link>
		<dc:creator>klem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 17:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get what all the fuss is about this guy. He takes data, finds an upward trend over time and concludes that humans are the reason for the upward trend. If he were the scientist he claims to be, he&#039;d know there is no way to support that conclusion.

An upward trend is merely evidence that the climate changes, it is not evidence that CO2 is the cause. The upward trend actually began near the end of the last glaciation 20,000 years ago, he knows this. 

All the fuss about this guy makes me wonder if this has anything to do with the election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get what all the fuss is about this guy. He takes data, finds an upward trend over time and concludes that humans are the reason for the upward trend. If he were the scientist he claims to be, he&#8217;d know there is no way to support that conclusion.</p>
<p>An upward trend is merely evidence that the climate changes, it is not evidence that CO2 is the cause. The upward trend actually began near the end of the last glaciation 20,000 years ago, he knows this. </p>
<p>All the fuss about this guy makes me wonder if this has anything to do with the election.</p>
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